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Ontario Assembly

43rd Parl. 1st Sess.
May 7, 2024 09:00AM

I think that’s a great question. I appreciate the question from the member from Nickel Belt. I would say that I have the exact same frustrations when I go to the north. Now being the parliamentary assistant for the Minister of Indigenous Affairs and Northern Development, I completely agree.

But, Speaker, the other question that we have to ask is, how do you eat an elephant? The answer is quite simple: We have to eat an elephant one bite at a time. There are critical projects that need to happen. I see that happening in my own riding. There are things that I would like to see happen.

But what I can’t understand is—and I guess my question back to the member would be, why, when you held the balance of power, did you support the Liberals? Which is why we now need to and we have over the last six years been making these massive investments into infrastructure that were, quite frankly, ignored for 15 years under the former Liberal government. When you, the member from Nickel Belt, who has been here for a very long time, had the opportunity and could have brought the government down at any time—

I think the member brings up an excellent point. Whether it’s even just the piece on the tolls, we understand how difficult that is. I know, in speaking to the member from Whitby, the difference that it made to his riding to be able to hear that the 412 and 418 were going to be toll-free. The reality is, we have to help the people of Ontario with pocketbook issues. Some people can complain that it’s not exactly as much as they would like it to be, but the reality is that we know the value of what it means to be able to spend more time with your family. We understand how difficult it is for the people in Ontario right now with the carbon tax—which gets supported by the queen of the carbon tax, Bonnie Crombie. They continue to say no to progress for the people of Ontario and say no to pocketbook issues because they want this to be a high-taxed area. They want to see those taxes go up. And it’s unfortunate.

I guess my question back to the member is, I hear no criticism of this legislation, yet they won’t vote for it. I can’t understand why it’s not important for the members of the opposition that people get to spend more time with their families, or why they would be opposed to actually having a plebiscite on whether we have any more toll roads in the province of Ontario. I don’t understand why, when they claim to represent the working man—which I think is very much debatable—they would just not do that, why they would not support their communities in building access to transit, building access to highways so that people can have access to work and have access to their families.

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There are three main ones: Collège Boréal, which is a French college; Cambrian College, which is an English college; and Laurentian University and the Northern Ontario School of Medicine. I would say what we see the most in my area is really targeted towards Indigenous people. There is still a lot of systemic discrimination facing First Nations, Métis—we don’t have too many Inuit people, but we have a lot of First Nations and Métis who come to our community. They often come from First Nations, where they were surrounded by other First Nations people, and it is a hard transition to come to Sudbury, either to Collège Boréal—

Do colleges and universities need resources? Do they want to support their students’ mental health? Yes, absolutely; they all want to. They all want their students to succeed. That’s why they exist. And they do a great job of it, but without the resources, it is really difficult. When the blue-ribbon panel tells us that you need a minimum of $2.5 billion and they get only half of this; when we lose another $1.5 billion because of the international students not allowed in—then where are those resources going—

For some, they will face discrimination. For some, they will face barriers to transition. But I must say that both colleges and both universities, as well as l’Université de Sudbury, know about this. They try to support them, but unfortunately, yes, some students still face discrimination.

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