Senator Plett: Thank you, Senator Cordy, for that. I guess some of us believe that this would be the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. Maybe we should go to the proper jurisdictions first. Nevertheless, I will leave that, and I will leave it for my speech.

You alluded a fair bit to elephants. Have you visited any establishments that have elephants? Have you seen these elephants crammed into small cages? Have you seen them freeze in wintertime? If you haven’t, are you aware — and I don’t want you to answer for him — whether the sponsor has made some of those trips to these places? Has he informed you that, in fact, these elephants are being mistreated — elephants that have never been in the wild; they have always been in captivity? Most elephants in our country have been bred in captivity and have never been in the wild. Have you collaborated? Is there anyone who has visited any zoos, any wildlife establishments that have elephants?