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House Hansard - 75

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 19, 2022 10:00AM
  • May/19/22 6:58:04 p.m.
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Madam Chair, let us talk about transparency. I will give the minister an opportunity to say more. The committee recently heard from representatives of Irving Shipbuilding. For the contract to build the 15 new frigates, the president mentioned that Irving's bid was under $60 billion and added that the government had announced that it would cost $60 billion. However, the Parliamentary Budget Officer estimated that the frigates would cost $77.3 billion to build. Given that Irving's figure was less than $60 billion, the government's figure was $60 billion, and the Parliamentary Budget Officer's figure was more than $77 billion, could the minister, in the name of transparency, tell us the projected cost of building these frigates?
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  • May/19/22 8:10:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, this is an estimated budget, and we are going to continue to work. We will be open and transparent with respect to numbers when they are confirmed.
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  • May/19/22 8:10:09 p.m.
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Madam Chair, at no point in the Order Paper does it say it is an estimated cost. It says the cost provided by the government. Irving, the shipbuilder, says it is considerably less. Again, who is telling the truth?
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  • May/19/22 8:10:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, again, this is estimated at this point. When it is confirmed, we will share those numbers.
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  • May/19/22 9:10:35 p.m.
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Madam Chair, that is a non-answer. The government's future surface combatant program has grown in cost from $60 billion to an estimated $100 billion. Has the government given any thought to an off-the-shelf, foreign purchase?
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