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House Hansard - 201

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 29, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health and to the Minister of Sport, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 12:57:13 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, I appreciated my colleague's comments and his speech. I liked the part in his speech where he said that it was okay to disagree with people from his own party, or with the leader of his party. I agree with that. I noticed a few things. There is a kind of division that I have a hard time rationalizing. For example, some Conservative members believe in climate change and some do not. In my opinion, the distinction seems geographic. Can my hon. colleague from Quebec explain why he is being cautious about the oil and gas sector when it comes to this bill?
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Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • May/29/23 1:15:36 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, I have a concern. We do a lot of work with environmental groups. It is good to have legislation that recognizes a citizen's right to a healthy environment. We support that principle. However, what happens if the Liberal government then goes on to approve oil and gas projects that will jeopardize that right to a healthy environment and exacerbate the climate crisis? I would like to hear what my colleague has to say about that.
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Mr. Luc Thériault
  • May/29/23 1:16:11 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, these oil and gas projects will indeed exacerbate the climate crisis and also negatively impact peoples' health. The primary determinant of health and disease is the environment. That is quite obvious. They cannot see the forest for the trees. When it comes to the environment, there should be no compromise. Then the government is surprised that it needs to sink huge sums into taking care of peoples' health, at least in Quebec. It is all related. How the government is choosing to invest its money does not suggest a real intention to move forward and improve the right to a healthy environment.
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Mr. Terry Duguid (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 2:47:39 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, every time we put forward an affordability measure, whether it is dental, rental or the Canada child benefit, the opposition votes against it. Its members have no credibility on affordability. By the way, the climate action rebate is an affordability measure. Eight out of 10 families will get more back than they pay at the pumps. While the opposition is focused on cryptocurrency and conspiracy theories, we are focused on Canadians, affordability and fighting climate change.
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Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson (Minister of Natural Resources, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 2:48:44 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we agree that we need to make sure that life is affordable. We have implemented a lot of measures to ensure that things will be affordable in the future. However, it is also important that we reduce greenhouse gas emissions. We need a plan to fight climate change, which we and almost all of the other parties in the House have. The Conservatives are the only ones who do not have a plan to fight climate change. They want to leave our children and grandchildren with a poor future. We need a plan to—
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Hon. Karina Gould (Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 2:50:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask my colleague what he plans to say to mothers when their children no longer have clean air to breathe because of problems caused by climate change. I would like to ask my colleague what the price should be for a healthy environment. Not only do the Conservatives have no plan to act on climate change, but when we propose measures to help Canadians, the Conservatives vote against them. We are here to fight climate change, protect our children and make life more affordable.
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Mr. Terry Duguid (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 2:55:18 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Conservatives do not seem to realize that there is a cost to climate change. There was a $9-billion impact to the Canadian economy, in B.C. in particular, from the fires, drought and floods. Six hundred people died under the heat dome, and there was a $4-billion impact from hurricane Fiona. Fires are raging in Nova Scotia and northern Alberta. What is it going to take for the Conservatives to stop the denial and take climate change seriously?
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson (Minister of Natural Resources, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 2:59:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I think that we can all agree that affordability is very important. That is why we have put into place programs like the heat pump program, which will directly benefit Atlantic Canadians disproportionately across the country. However, it is also important that we actually have a plan to fight climate change, which is an existential threat to the future of the human race. It is appalling that the party opposite has no plan to fight climate change. It has no plan for the economy of the future in terms of building an economy that can thrive in a low-carbon future. Later this week, I will be in Newfoundland to make a major announcement that is the direct result of having an appropriate, thoughtful plan to fight climate change.
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Hon. Karina Gould
  • May/29/23 3:04:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I guess I hit a nerve with the Conservatives, because they are recognizing that they have not spoken about wildfires and the thousands of their own constituents who have been driven from their homes. Instead of talking about the real impact and cost of climate change, they choose to talk about the fact that we have a plan and are actually fighting it because we care about Canadians, we care about their future, and there is no future for Canadians if we are not protecting their livelihoods, and their lives quite frankly, and making sure that we are fighting climate change while protecting them.
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Hon. Marie-Claude Bibeau (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 3:05:40 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as we all know, farmers are the first to be affected by climate change and extreme weather events. Encouraging the biofuels industry means encouraging canola farmers, so I am rather shocked that our Conservative colleagues do not see how this is a good thing for canola farmers.
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Ms. Elizabeth May
  • May/29/23 4:35:40 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The bill before us, Bill S-5, has no relation to climate change or any of the topics yet referenced. This is not a generalized debate on environmental policy. This is about a specific bill that is inadequate and that proposes to regulate toxic chemicals and improve their regulation. As much as it pains me to ask, when might the hon. member speak to Bill S-5?
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Mr. Earl Dreeshen
  • May/29/23 4:53:53 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, of course the climate has been changing. That is the point I made when I said that we went from about two miles of ice on top of Montreal 10,000 years ago to cutting the St. Lawrence River and all of that. We know that it is changing. The point being said is that this means the man-made part is accelerating it. That is the discussion we are having, and I want to make sure we understand that because I am talking about both. I think that is really the critical point here. The other thing I am saying is about the stories we listen to that say water is going to be 10 metres higher. Rich guys are still buying mansions on the oceans, insurance companies have not gotten to the stage where they are putting an extra premium on that and mortgages are still for 40 years, so not everybody is taking the things being said as 100% accurate.
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)
  • May/29/23 7:09:50 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am glad to hear the Leader of the Opposition talk about a price on carbon, because that is a key element of our government's efforts to fight climate change—
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:10:25 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the point is this: Does the member have a plan to fight climate change or does he not?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:11:02 p.m.
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Madam Chair, what Canadians cannot afford is an official opposition that denies the fact that climate change is real and denies the—
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:11:36 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the leader of the official opposition just said that it was false that he does not have a climate plan. Does that mean he is sticking with the previous Conservative leader's climate plan? That was what he was elected on.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre
  • May/29/23 7:12:12 p.m.
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Madam Chair, what was Canada's ranking in the climate performance index, out of 63 countries?
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre
  • May/29/23 7:12:32 p.m.
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Madam Chair, what was Canada's ranking in the climate performance index? What was our ranking?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:12:42 p.m.
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Madam Chair, TD judged that our climate plan in the 2023 budget would put us at par with the United States and ahead of the rest of the world as a green economy investment destination.
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:13:15 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I would like the Conservatives to really look themselves in the mirror and ask if it is credible, in the 21st century, to not have a climate plan, because that is the reality of this opposition. It is a disservice to all Canadians.
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