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House Hansard - 201

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 29, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Ms. Elizabeth May (Saanich—Gulf Islands, GP)
  • May/29/23 12:58:54 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, the Green Party also opposes the bill. The two parties that will be voting against Bill S-5 are the Green Party and the Conservative Party, but they will do so for completely different reasons. We think this is a bad bill. It runs counter to the goal of modernizing the Canadian Environmental Protection Act. The hon. member talked about Bill C-69, which, for the Greens, was also a bad bill. I also voted against Bill C-69 because it establishes a system that is entirely at the discretion of a single minister, with no regulations across all federal regulation. That was more of a comment than a question.
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Ms. Elizabeth May (Saanich—Gulf Islands, GP)
  • May/29/23 1:49:14 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, now that we are at the last stage of the bill, third reading, it is not that the Green Party has reservations, as my colleague just said. Unfortunately, the Green Party is now against the bill because it would weaken our ability to regulate toxic chemicals across Canada and because it only pretends to create the right to a healthy environment. It is a right that cannot be enforced; it is basically a bumper sticker and not a right. Again, everyone who is concerned about the environment across Canada and various environmental groups are being told that the government will bring out a new version of the Canadian Environmental Protection Act really soon. What is my hon. colleague's honest assessment of how likely this is and when it may happen?
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/29/23 1:50:50 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, I tend to disagree with the leader of the Green Party and the suggestion about looking at the right to a healthy environment. At the end of the day, it is incorporated into the legislation. I suspect that what we will see will be more information being provided on the issue of those rights in the coming days, weeks and months ahead. I think we need to recognize that this is a significant step forward, where we have a government policy, in essence, making it very clear. It is more than just a policy; it is done through legislation. Canadians have a right to a healthy environment. I wonder if the member could provide his thoughts in regard to how important it is to talk about this. There has been a lot of discussion about the environment in general, but when we get a statement of that nature in law, it is a significant step forward. Obviously, it is not going to resolve all the issues. Mechanisms, protocols and so forth need to be established. At the very least, we have a government for the first time that is actually incorporating that sort of a principle in legislation. Would he not agree that the incorporation of a right to a healthy environment is good for all Canadians?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:12:22 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will tell members some important rankings. TD judged our green economy plan—
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:12:42 p.m.
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Madam Chair, TD judged that our climate plan in the 2023 budget would put us at par with the United States and ahead of the rest of the world as a green economy investment destination.
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:20:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the important question is this: How much will Canadians, including Quebeckers, lose without a plan to create a green economy?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 7:24:02 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Quebec companies are well positioned to take the lead in the green economy. That is why Quebec businesses strongly support our climate plan.
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 10:03:14 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we have to produce more electricity and ensure that it is green electricity because that is what investors want.
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Ms. Monique Pauzé
  • May/29/23 10:04:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I would like to ask the minister another question. Is that tax credit reserved only for green hydrogen, the type of hydrogen that Canada's allies who are committed to the fight against climate change really want to buy?
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Ms. Monique Pauzé
  • May/29/23 10:04:59 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Germany wants green hydrogen. That is what it is asking for. Why then is the government offering a tax credit for the production of grey hydrogen? There are all sorts of colours of hydrogen and the colour depends on the source from which the hydrogen is produced. Right now, it is grey hydrogen. Why invest in that?
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Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 10:05:20 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I very much appreciate the questions about the green transition and hydrogen. I agree that our allies, the investors, are very interested in Canada's hydrogen production. We think the ideal approach is to talk about the carbon content—
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