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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 29, 2023 11:00AM
  • May/29/23 2:54:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, while Canadians are struggling to put food on the table, pay their mortgages and put gas in their cars, the Liberals are doubling down on their disastrous carbon tax, a tax that will increase the cost of a litre of gas by 41¢ and increase the price of everything. Now, the Liberals' second carbon tax would add 17¢. Including GST, that is 61¢. Just how high does the Prime Minister want prices to go?
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  • May/29/23 2:55:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, when the Prime Minister does not care about monetary policy, Canadians pay the price. These combined carbon taxes would cost Saskatchewan families $2,840. That means fewer available dollars for groceries, gas and mortgage payments. The Liberal financial crisis has already forced 1.5 million Canadians to use food banks in a single month. With gas prices already at $1.60 a litre, just how high does the government want prices to go?
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  • May/29/23 4:57:11 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Mr. Speaker, in my riding there is a lot of agriculture and we looked at the added costs that are involved with an average farm. We did the calculations when it was about $30 a tonne, and at that stage I believe it was around a $10,000 cost. Of course, by the time it gets to $170, we can multiply it through, which is where that cost is. We are able to kind of tinker around the edges insofar as to say that maybe we could take a look at charges to the fuel they use, but that does not change the other costs that are associated with it, such as the fertilizers they need and the trucking that is associated with products coming in and going out. This is the part where we realize the quantity of agriculture products that are sold around the world, and here we are putting ourselves in a straitjacket in order to satisfy the concept of the Liberal Party that we should have a carbon tax. They do not have a carbon tax in the U.S., which is our major partner that we are dealing with, and so there is competition against our farmers. Of course the folks in my riding look at it and ask, “Where is the fairness?” These stories we get that say, “Oh well, you're going to get some money back” do not quite cut it with them.
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  • May/29/23 7:11:12 p.m.
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Madam Chair, that is false. We will assume that she intends to tax the tax. That means that Canadians will pay once with the carbon tax and then twice for the tax on the tax. What will be the full cost of the carbon tax per litre be once the tax, and the tax on the tax, are fully implemented? How much will it be?
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  • May/29/23 7:12:54 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it is funny that the United States does not have a carbon tax. It is even funnier that she thinks the bankers are happy. I am sure they are happy. They do not mind paying what turns out to be 41¢ a litre when this carbon tax is fully implemented. How much will that cap cost, net, for the average family?
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  • May/29/23 7:13:31 p.m.
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Madam Chair, she has a tax plan and she cannot even tell us how much it will cost. We know it will be 41¢ a litre for the first carbon tax. How much will it cost the average family in higher heat, gas and grocery bills? How much?
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  • May/29/23 7:17:09 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the minister has carbon tax 1 and carbon tax 2. She cannot tell anybody what they cost. Either she does not know or she does not want Canadians to know. Can you tell us what will be the total cost to an average family, net of rebates, of carbon tax 1 plus carbon tax 2? How much?
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  • May/29/23 7:18:01 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the question was this: How much is the total cost per family of the two combined carbon taxes plus the tax on the tax and the tax. How much? That is the easy question. She has an official there. Perhaps he could hand her a briefing note. How much is it?
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  • May/29/23 7:22:50 p.m.
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Madam Chair, therefore we must assume that the government will apply the sales tax to Quebec's carbon tax. It will add 20¢ to the cost of a litre of gas. That is an additional 20¢ a litre as a result of this new tax. How much will that cost Quebec families?
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  • May/29/23 7:23:37 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the answer is that every Quebec family will have to pay more than $400 for this second carbon tax that the government and the Bloc want to charge Quebeckers. How much will it cost every farm in Quebec and every farmer in Quebec?
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  • May/29/23 8:00:22 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the government has been spending over $30 billion on the TMX pipeline. It has a $15-billion growth fund. Does the minister share concern that the $30 billion being spent on a pipeline is going to bid up the cost of projects that the growth fund would invest in?
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  • May/29/23 8:01:06 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, is the nature of the disagreement on the fact that $30 billion on the TMX pipeline might bid up the cost of jobs for the growth fund?
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  • May/29/23 8:01:34 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I am concerned to know if the minister thinks that the spending on TMX may well bid up the cost of other large infrastructure projects, like those foreseen for the growth fund.
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  • May/29/23 8:28:10 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, can the minister please tell every Canadian household how much her extra $60 billion of spending is going to cost?
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  • May/29/23 8:32:03 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, can the minister please tell Albertan families how much it is going to cost when carbon tax 1 and carbon tax 2 are fully implemented on each Alberta household?
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  • May/29/23 8:41:35 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, can the minister tell us the cost to service Canada's debt, meaning how much it is costing Canadians to pay for the deficits she presented?
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  • May/29/23 8:42:04 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I will repeat my question: How much does it cost to service the debt? The Minister of Finance should be able to answer the question. That is basic.
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  • May/29/23 9:01:42 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, she will have plenty of time to sit on this side of the House and ask questions, but during that recession, we were the last ones in and the first ones out. She will remember that. Can the minister tell us how much it cost to service the debt in 2021-22? I want just a number. She is the finance minister.
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  • May/29/23 9:03:45 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the amount that I was looking for from the finance minister was about $45 billion. It will cost $43.9 billion to service our debt, which has doubled since last year, and it cost $45 billion in the Canada health transfer to keep Canadians safe, a number the minister does not think matters. It costs almost as much to service the debt as we pay for health care in this country, and that is shameful.
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