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House Hansard - 307

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 2, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 307 - May/2/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:04:47 p.m.
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We have to resume debate. The hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • May/2/24 5:04:52 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, Bill C-49 was introduced quite a while ago. I would have honestly thought that even the far right Conservative element would get behind and support this bill. I am quite surprised that the Conservative Party today, along with its friends in the Bloc, have decided to vote against Bill C-49. I have a question for each and every member, particularly those from Atlantic Canada: Whom are they listening to? I would like to provide some quotes. Maybe members can guess who said them. In regard to the bill, someone said, “Bill C-49 is a necessary first step in unlocking our energy potential. There will be many steps along the road but we are hopeful that Bill C-49 passes so we can get started.” Who would have said that? An hon. member: Tell us. Mr. Kevin Lamoureux: To my Conservative friends, yes, I am going to tell them. Madam Speaker, it was a Progressive, and I underline the word “progressive”, Conservative government member in Nova Scotia, Premier Tim Houston. He is the individual who said that. We have to wonder why the Conservative Party of Canada is not listening to what the Premier of Nova Scotia, a Progressive Conservative, is saying. There is another quote I would like to share. It states, “Newfoundland and Labrador is perfectly positioned in the green energy transition.... We continue to support the Government of Canada on Bill C-49 and urge the other federal parties to do the same.” We have another premier of a province who is saying that all members should get behind and support this legislation, Bill C-49. The legislation deals with and highlights two Atlantic provinces specifically: Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador. Both premiers of different political stripes are saying that they want this legislation to pass. We have the NDP and Liberals trying to get the legislation passed, and we have the Bloc and Conservative coalition trying to prevent it from passing. I do not fully understand the Conservatives. They are obviously not listening to the premiers of provinces that are directly impacted and what they are saying. It does not surprise me, because they are more interested in organizations such as Diagolon. An hon. member: Oh, oh! Mr. Kevin Lamoureux: Well, think about it—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:08:37 p.m.
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We have a point of order. The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/2/24 5:08:45 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, this is extremely problematic. It has been said so many times. I ask the member to reflect on that organization; I am not even going to repeat it. It said things about the spouse of the Leader of the Opposition—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:08:58 p.m.
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We are not going to enter into debate, but I will remind members that it has been agreed that we are going to concentrate on the administration of government in this House. Referring to things that happen outside the House and the government has no place in the House. I remind the parliamentary secretary of that.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:09:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, let us think about it. The member stands up on a point of order because he is upset that I mentioned a group, which the leader of the Conservative Party, instead of listening to the premiers on this issue—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:09:36 p.m.
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I remind the hon. member that we are trying— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès): Order. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:09:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I cannot believe the reaction from the members opposite, when there is a responsibility for the leader of the Conservative Party to do consultations, to look at ways in which legislation is impacting Canadians. Instead of listening to premiers, he is visiting trailers and dealing with issues of Diagolon. That is the reality. The leader of the Conservative Party is more concerned about what the extreme far right has to say than what the premiers have to say on important pieces of legislation. Bill C-49—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:10:26 p.m.
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The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/2/24 5:10:30 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member is using unparliamentary language and making unparliamentary connections. He should withdraw now, both times.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:10:38 p.m.
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I did not hear any unparliamentary language. At this point, the member was making a comparison, and I have asked the member to be very prudent in the way he uses it. He was making a comparison about people who are being listened to. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:11:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member is trying to censor me because I am saying the word “Diagolon”, whereas the leader of the Conservative Party visits the association at the person's trailer. He is not upset with that, and he asks me—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:11:19 p.m.
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We are not going to start that debate. The member made a comparison about who is listening to whom, but let us keep it at that and continue with the speech, please, on the point in question.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:11:32 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would be inclined to apologize if in fact the leader of the Conservative Party would stop the jellyfish attitude and actually apologize to Canadians for his attitudes in dealing with—
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/2/24 5:12:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. How is this relevant?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:12:04 p.m.
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There is a lot of room for latitude but, in this case, that is an appropriate question. Let us bring it back to the subject at hand.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
Madam Speaker, it is an interesting process. We are talking about Bill C-49, substantial legislation that would enable the potential development in Atlantic Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, in things such as wind energy. I was quoting two premiers who want the House of Commons to pass the legislation, and talking about the frustration members no doubt have because the Conservative Party, instead of listening to the premiers of the provinces, has chosen to listen to far right-wing organizations, extremists, and not allow the legislation to pass. To demonstrate that, let us talk about what Conservative Party has done. The legislation has been on hold in committee. Bill C-50 was just ahead of it, and the Conservatives used AI to come up with 20,000-plus amendments on Bill C-50, which delayed the clause-by-clause of Bill C-49. When we finally got it through the committee stage, they attempted to bring in amendments at report stage, which were accurately ruled by the Speaker as being out of order. Then the Conservatives brought forward an amendment that would kill the legislation, while at the same time—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:13:57 p.m.
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The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Brad Vis
  • May/2/24 5:14:00 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, it is a simple question of relevancy. He is talking about another bill processed through the House of Commons, and not about Bill C-49.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:14:09 p.m.
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However, it is a bill that was processed through the House of Commons that may have a certain link to the current bill. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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