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House Hansard - 307

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 2, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 307 - May/2/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:08:58 p.m.
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We are not going to enter into debate, but I will remind members that it has been agreed that we are going to concentrate on the administration of government in this House. Referring to things that happen outside the House and the government has no place in the House. I remind the parliamentary secretary of that.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:09:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, let us think about it. The member stands up on a point of order because he is upset that I mentioned a group, which the leader of the Conservative Party, instead of listening to the premiers on this issue—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:09:36 p.m.
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I remind the hon. member that we are trying— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès): Order. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:09:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I cannot believe the reaction from the members opposite, when there is a responsibility for the leader of the Conservative Party to do consultations, to look at ways in which legislation is impacting Canadians. Instead of listening to premiers, he is visiting trailers and dealing with issues of Diagolon. That is the reality. The leader of the Conservative Party is more concerned about what the extreme far right has to say than what the premiers have to say on important pieces of legislation. Bill C-49—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:10:26 p.m.
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The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/2/24 5:10:30 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member is using unparliamentary language and making unparliamentary connections. He should withdraw now, both times.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:10:38 p.m.
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I did not hear any unparliamentary language. At this point, the member was making a comparison, and I have asked the member to be very prudent in the way he uses it. He was making a comparison about people who are being listened to. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:11:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member is trying to censor me because I am saying the word “Diagolon”, whereas the leader of the Conservative Party visits the association at the person's trailer. He is not upset with that, and he asks me—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:11:19 p.m.
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We are not going to start that debate. The member made a comparison about who is listening to whom, but let us keep it at that and continue with the speech, please, on the point in question.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:11:32 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would be inclined to apologize if in fact the leader of the Conservative Party would stop the jellyfish attitude and actually apologize to Canadians for his attitudes in dealing with—
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/2/24 5:12:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. How is this relevant?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:12:04 p.m.
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There is a lot of room for latitude but, in this case, that is an appropriate question. Let us bring it back to the subject at hand.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
Madam Speaker, it is an interesting process. We are talking about Bill C-49, substantial legislation that would enable the potential development in Atlantic Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, in things such as wind energy. I was quoting two premiers who want the House of Commons to pass the legislation, and talking about the frustration members no doubt have because the Conservative Party, instead of listening to the premiers of the provinces, has chosen to listen to far right-wing organizations, extremists, and not allow the legislation to pass. To demonstrate that, let us talk about what Conservative Party has done. The legislation has been on hold in committee. Bill C-50 was just ahead of it, and the Conservatives used AI to come up with 20,000-plus amendments on Bill C-50, which delayed the clause-by-clause of Bill C-49. When we finally got it through the committee stage, they attempted to bring in amendments at report stage, which were accurately ruled by the Speaker as being out of order. Then the Conservatives brought forward an amendment that would kill the legislation, while at the same time—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:13:57 p.m.
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The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Brad Vis
  • May/2/24 5:14:00 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, it is a simple question of relevancy. He is talking about another bill processed through the House of Commons, and not about Bill C-49.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:14:09 p.m.
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However, it is a bill that was processed through the House of Commons that may have a certain link to the current bill. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/2/24 5:14:16 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I cannot believe the sensitivity of the member, since 99.5% of everything I said is absolutely relevant to the legislation. The Conservative Party of Canada is so determined to prevent the legislation from passing, and the question that needs to be asked of the Conservatives is what they have against Atlantic Canada that they are preventing legislation from passing that would enable the region to achieve a much higher potential. The Conservatives do not have to believe the government. All they need to do is listen to the people of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador and, in particular, the provincial leadership. They are calling upon the Conservative Party of Canada not only to recognize that the bill is positive legislation but also, at the very least, to allow the legislation to pass. The Conservative Party is doing whatever it can to prevent that from happening, and I find that disrespectful to the people of those provinces. I suggest that, at the end of the day, economic development is important. Economic development in Atlantic Canada is good for all of Canada. When we look at the behaviour of the Conservative Party today, the attitude of Joe Clark, Kim Campbell and Brian Mulroney about it is right, which is that the Conservative Party today has amputated the progressive nature of the party. It is not me who is saying that; it was former prime ministers of Canada who were real progressive Conservatives. The current leadership of the Conservative Party has fallen so far to the right that they have amputated the progressive nature—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:16:05 p.m.
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There is a point of order by the hon. member for Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley.
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Mr. Marty Morantz
  • May/2/24 5:16:12 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, as far as I am aware, the debate is about Bill C-49. The member has been going on for a couple of minutes now about Joe Clark, Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/2/24 5:16:21 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Members know there is a lot of leeway, and the member has been debating Bill C-49 too. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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