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House Hansard - 325

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 5, 2024 02:00PM
  • Jun/5/24 2:37:35 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank our colleague, the leader of the NDP, for his important work and the work of his House leader in setting up, for example, the commission led by Justice Hogue. I am very pleased to hear that he is interested, having received, obviously, the appropriate security clearance, in getting all of the confidential information that is behind the important work of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians. Our government created that committee. We appreciate its work. We value its recommendations. We have always acted to put in place strengthened measures when we receive thoughtful analysis, like we did from the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, and we will continue to do that important work.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:38:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has known since March and has done nothing. The allegations of MPs receiving help from a foreign government are troubling. The Prime Minister has had this information since March 22 and has done nothing about it, while the Conservative leader does not want to know anything about it. Why are these two leaders content to turn a blind eye to this when they think that foreign interference improves their chances of winning?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:38:56 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thought that the NDP shared our concerns about the cost of living. That is why I find it surprising that the NDP does not want to discuss the Canadian economy. The reality is that today we have good news. The Bank of Canada has decided to lower the key interest rate. It is our responsible economic plan that created the conditions to make this happen.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:39:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the NSICOP report makes it clear that the Prime Minister was advised, back in 2018, of the national security threats against Parliament from hostile foreign states. He was advised that measures in place at the time were not sufficient. He was advised to take further action. Three times, the senior civil service asked for his approval for action to protect Parliament: in December 2019, in December 2020 and again in February 2022. Three times, the Prime Minister withheld that approval. Why?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:40:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, our hon. colleague knows very well that our government was the first government to put in place a series of measures to strengthen our institutions and our democracy from the threat of foreign interference. He knows very well that threat was identified publicly in 2013 in a CSIS report when the Leader of the Opposition was responsible for democratic institutions. The Conservatives did absolutely nothing, so I find it somewhat ironic that my friend would stand in this place and would say that our government, the first government that has acted in this important area and that continues to strengthen these measures, has not done enough.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:40:57 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the report reveals that parliamentarians, including members of the House, knowingly and wittingly assisted a hostile foreign state in Parliament and in our elections to the detriment of the people of Canada. This is shocking. I cannot believe the following needs to be said. Parliamentarians' duty is not to a foreign state, but to the people of Canada. My question is simple. Will the Prime Minister release the names of these parliamentarians?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:41:41 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, my colleague knows full well that no responsible government would disclose names involved in specific intelligence situations. It is not entirely accurate of him to claim that a responsible government, one that focuses on the security of Canada and our democratic institutions, would do such a thing. I am glad that there are parliamentarians in the House who have the necessary security clearance to access all the intelligence behind that important committee report. I invite them to have a proper look at it.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:42:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the extent of foreign interference in Canada has been denied, covered up and downplayed. Now, a report by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians has lifted the veil on the culpable indifference of this Prime Minister. This report discloses that parliamentarians, including members of this House, willingly helped hostile foreign countries interfere in this Parliament and in elections, thus working against the interests of Canadians and Canada. This is shocking and unacceptable. Will the Prime Minister, who has the power and, above all, the duty to do this, reveal today the names of his MPs and the facts about their involvement?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:43:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, once again, I am rather concerned about the irresponsibility of our colleagues across the way. The member is well aware that he is asking for something that has never been done. I would, however, encourage him to talk to his leader and ask him to accept the government's invitation to get the security clearance needed to see all of the highly classified information that our colleagues on the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians have seen. Perhaps that would be a more sincere way of advancing the cause that he claims to want to move forward today in the House.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:43:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberal defence of the carbon tax is in complete shambles. First, they only want Canadians to focus on the direct costs of the carbon tax and to ignore all the secondary effects like smaller paycheques and higher prices, as if Canadians have a choice of which carbon tax costs they have to pay. We now learn that there is a secret report that does show the true cost. The Parliamentary Budget Officer says that it proves that he is right, that the vast majority of Canadians are worse off paying the tax than any rebate they receive. The Liberals claim it proves that they are right. There is an easy way to settle this. Why will the government not just release the report so that Canadians can decide?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:44:31 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, math is really not the long suit of the party over there. The PBO has specifically said and has repeated time after time, and one would think Conservatives would understand, that eight out of 10 Canadians are better off under the price on pollution in the affected provinces. The fact is, though, that they talk of gag orders. We have not seen the member for Peace River—Westlock in a long time. What about the former chair of the status of women committee? We have not seen her either. They are not, at any time, going to give—
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  • Jun/5/24 2:45:09 p.m.
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I just need to remind individuals that we cannot say whether someone is here or not, so please be careful on those lines. The hon. member for Regina—Qu'Appelle.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:45:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, apparently, answering questions does not seem to be the minister's long suit. Their responses here are completely ridiculous. They claim that this report exonerates their position, but they will not release it. This is a little like someone who is accused of a crime, walking into court and saying they have an amazing alibi that proves they are innocent, but they just cannot show it to anybody. If one will not show one's evidence to the jury, one is probably guilty. Why not do the easy thing? Release the report, and remove the gag order so that Canadians can decide.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:46:02 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to start by wishing a happy World Environment Day to all Canadians, especially to the failed former leader of the Conservative Party, the member for Regina—Qu'Appelle, and to the new leader of the Conservative Party from Carleton, who have voted against the environment over 400 times in the House of Commons. It is clear where they stand on climate change, and it is clear where they stand on environmental protections. Conservatives continue to mislead Canadians. Our government will continue to support the good work of the PBO. I am sorry, but the Conservative math just is not adding up these days.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:46:38 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians know that the Liberal carbon tax increases the cost of everything, while failing to bring down emissions. The Parliamentary Budget Officer confirmed that Canadians are paying more than they are getting back from this so-called rebate. The Liberals are clearly afraid that Canadians will know the truth, and that is that the carbon tax has made life unaffordable. When will the government stop the cover-up, release the secret report and confirm what we all know, that Canadians are suffering because of this carbon tax?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:47:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am glad that the Conservatives are finally asking a couple of questions that are at least in the neighbourhood of the economy. The next step for them is to recognize how significant today is. Today is the day that Canada, first among the G7, lowered interest rates. It is the first time rates have gone down since COVID. This is a tremendously important day for Canada, and it is our responsible economic plan that has made it possible.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:47:57 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister is finally going to meet with François Legault on Monday to talk about immigration. It is about time, after leaving Quebec to deal with a record influx of newcomers. Monday should be the deadline for the federal government to stop offloading its responsibility. Quebec is calling for a temporary reduction in immigration and for French requirements in federal programs. Quebec is calling for an even distribution of asylum seekers. Quebec is calling for $1 billion for taking them in. On Monday, will the Prime Minister agree to all these requests and finally sign the cheque?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:48:38 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I know that the Bloc Québécois wants to fast-track asylum claims. However, the height of hypocrisy was when a Bloc member spoke during a meeting of the Standing Committee on Finance to oppose the government's proposed reforms for fast-tracking asylum claims. I know that the Premier of Quebec thinks that the Bloc Québécois is useless. I do not share that opinion, but I am becoming less sure.
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  • Jun/5/24 2:49:10 p.m.
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I am speechless, Mr. Speaker. If the federal government thinks that $1 billion is a lot, then all it had to do was take care of asylum seekers sooner, rather than sit back and watch the bill get bigger and bigger. The government could have also kept the bill lower by doing its job, especially when it comes to work permits. According to Quebec, asylum seekers represent nearly 20% of social assistance recipients. It is not because they do not want to work. It is because Ottawa is not giving them permission. Minister Fréchette confirmed that asylum seekers are receiving benefits for an average of 10 to 11 months while they wait for a work permit from the federal government. Minister Fréchette said that. When will Ottawa stop driving asylum seekers into poverty?
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  • Jun/5/24 2:49:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the entire opposition opposed our asylum system reforms, which are designed to speed things up. I think this is ridiculous. The Bloc Québécois should take responsibility. We are talking about light blue and dark blue, but it is pretty much the same thing. With regard to Monday's meeting, the member will have to wait until Monday.
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