44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 10, 2024 11:00AM
- Jun/10/24 2:18:57 p.m.
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Speaker, today the movie Gino: A Child of War premieres on Parliament Hill. I would like to invite all Canadians to join us and discover the story of Gino Farnetti-Bragaglia. Gino's heart-wrenching yet inspiring journey sheds light on the boundless hope and resilience of the human spirit amid the chaos of war.
This five-year-old boy from Torrice, Italy had his life upended by the ravages of World War II. In June 1944, compassionate members of the Royal Canadian Army Service Corps conducting resupply tasks found a famished young Italian boy close to the battle ruins. For the next 10 months, Gino found shelter, nourishment and care among his Canadian guardians.
The movie highlights the shared heritage and enduring strength that define and connect Canada and Italy. It honours the brave Canadian men and women in uniform who fight for freedom and democracy, past and present. In honouring Gino's story, we celebrate the values of duty, compassion and courage as demonstrated by the Canadian soldiers, the perseverance that unites us and the freedom we enjoy today, thanks to the sacrifices of the past.
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- Jun/10/24 2:20:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, last week we learned, courtesy of the report released by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, that members were “‘semi-witting or witting’ participants in the efforts of foreign states to interfere in our politics.” This is an extremely troubling revelation, and that is why we must know who these members are who are colluding with hostile foreign powers.
Will the Prime Minister reveal the names of these members and the unacceptable actions alleged against them? Yes or no?
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- Jun/10/24 2:20:43 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his question.
I am a little surprised. The person sitting next to him, his House leader, sent me a letter over the weekend suggesting that these questions be addressed to the Hogue commission, and that this was the appropriate forum with the precautions that are in place.
Today the House is debating a motion from our friends in the Bloc Québécois that we are going to support. I think this is an important time for Parliament. We must come together and support the work of the Hogue commission, and that is exactly what we plan on doing.
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- Jun/10/24 2:21:21 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians expect their elected representatives here and their senators to work in their interest. I am pleased to hear the minister's response, but I would like him to confirm whether the Prime Minister will officially submit to Justice Hogue the names of the MPs, or perhaps the senators, who have been implicated in disseminating intelligence to hostile states.
Will he give the names, yes or no?
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- Jun/10/24 2:21:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will reiterate that our colleague should consult the person sitting to his left. He knows full well that the Hogue commission has access to precisely this type of information. The Hogue commission has access to all the records that the committee of parliamentarians consulted.
Privy Council officials have already been in contact with the Hogue commission precisely to discuss how we can move forward on this. That is the responsible way to proceed. The member knows full well that it is irresponsible to rise in the House and ask that a list of names be disclosed. We will not do that.
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- Jun/10/24 2:22:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, certain members of this House acted in the best interest of hostile foreign regimes interfering in Canada's democracy. This is a disgusting betrayal of Canadians who elected us to represent them in this place. We as MPs are supposed to serve Canadians, not foreign hostile actors.
Why is the Liberal-NDP government fighting to protect the names of MPs collaborating in the best interest of hostile foreign regimes and not Canadians?
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- Jun/10/24 2:23:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will repeat what I said a moment ago in French. We agree with members of this House that the appropriate forum to look at these matters is the commission that is already set up and operating, set up, I would remind colleagues, with the unanimous support of all parties in this House. The Hogue commission has access to all of the documents that the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians looked at. Officials from the Privy Council Office have already been in touch with the Hogue commission to determine the best way forward.
We think that is a responsible way to proceed, not simply standing up and illegally announcing a list of names, like my colleague suggests.
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- Jun/10/24 2:23:41 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, “boo hoo, get over it” was the most disgusting response from the cover-up coalition. The government turned a blind eye to foreign interference to protect its own partisan interests. It refused to hand over documents to that commission. Now it will not release the names of the MPs in this House doing dirty work for foreign hostile regimes. Canadians need to know who these MPs are.
Is the Liberal-NDP government really going to let sitting members of this House working against the interests of Canadians run in the next election?
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- Jun/10/24 2:24:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the government will be supporting the motion before the House today, brought by the Bloc Québécois, asking the Hogue commission to examine this very matter. We think that is the appropriate way to do it.
The Conservatives are pretending that one can stand up and release a list of names. I asked the deputy commissioner of the RCMP, Mark Flynn, this morning, what would happen if I stood up and announced a list of names, like my colleagues are asking me to do. He said I would be subject to criminal prosecution. Guess what? I am not going to do that.
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- Jun/10/24 2:25:11 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Liberals have had years to do something, and they have done nothing.
Speaking of cover-ups, there is another one. Last week, the Parliamentary Budget Officer revealed that the government is hiding a secret carbon tax report that proves a majority of Canadians pay more into this scam than what they get back in these phony rebates, but the Liberal-NDP government did what it does best. It put a gag order on the PBO, keeping the truth from Canadians.
When will the Liberal-NDP cover-up coalition lift the gag order and release the report to confirm what Canadians already know, which is that the Prime Minister and his carbon tax scam are not worth the cost?
Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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- Jun/10/24 2:25:44 p.m.
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Once again, I am going to remind members to please not take the floor unless they are recognized to speak so that we can hear the questions and the answers.
The hon. Minister of Environment and Climate Change.
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- Jun/10/24 2:26:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we respect the work of the PBO, who provides independent analysis on the government. Conservatives, unfortunately, are misleading Canadians yet again. Our government has supported, and will continue to support, the Parliamentary Budget Officer to fulfill his role in his office. The report correctly confirmed that eight out of 10 Canadians get more money back in the rebate than they pay in a fuel charge. The Parliamentary Budget Officer has said that carbon pricing is the least disruptive measure to use to fight climate change.
Instead of misleading Canadians, Conservatives should take math classes over the summer and should come up with a real plan for the economy and for climate change.
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- Jun/10/24 2:26:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, today we are debating a Bloc Québécois motion seeking to expand the Hogue commission's terms of reference to allow it to also investigate members of the House of Commons working on behalf of foreign interests.
Why did we move this motion? Because the Liberals consistently lack leadership on the interference file. They are always playing catch-up and, frankly, they should be embarrassed that the Bloc Québécois has had to take this initiative again today. They are the government in power.
Why do they always have to get backed into a corner before taking action on foreign interference?
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- Jun/10/24 2:27:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have good news. The work I did with my colleague and the other House leaders last summer has resulted in the Hogue commission.
We believe that the terms of reference we negotiated with our friend from La Prairie allows the commission to do precisely the work that the Bloc Québécois motion calls for.
We will support the motion in tomorrow's vote. We will work with the Hogue commission precisely to determine the best way to proceed.
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- Jun/10/24 2:27:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, last week, during question period, when I asked what the government was going to do to ensure that no one in the House is working for a foreign power, the Deputy Prime Minister responded by talking about the interest rates.
The Bloc Québécois cares about this issue and is concerned about this threat to democracy and here she comes out with her useless spin. That speaks volumes about the Liberals' lack of seriousness. They are not taking this seriously. The threat is very serious.
Will the government offer its full collaboration to the Hogue commission once its terms of reference have been expanded?
Democracy depends on it.
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- Jun/10/24 2:28:39 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, absolutely, the answer is yes. As I said, senior officials at the Privy Council already initiated that discussion with the Hogue commission on the weekend.
We will always be there to ensure that the Hogue commission has everything it needs to shed light on this situation.
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- Jun/10/24 2:29:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has confirmation that MPs knowingly worked with foreign governments to undermine Canada. He has known for 11 months and has done nothing. All the while, Canadians have been harassed. Canadians have been threatened. A Canadian citizen was killed. Those were all linked to foreign governments.
Why has the Prime Minister failed to protect Canadians?
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- Jun/10/24 2:29:33 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, obviously, the most important responsibility of any government is to protect its citizens. Far from not taking this matter seriously, our government has been the only government in the history of Canada to set up a series of measures to detect, to disrupt and to prevent foreign interference.
We are very pleased that members of the House are working collaboratively to support government legislation before the House right now to give additional tools, to create additional criminal offences and to hold those to account who might seek to interfere in our democratic institutions. We will continue to always do this important work.
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- Jun/10/24 2:30:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has known for 11 weeks and has done nothing.
For 11 weeks, the Prime Minister has known the names of the MPs who may be working with the governments of foreign countries like India and China. For 11 weeks, he has known that some members are potentially helping a government that may have been responsible for the murder of a Canadian citizen.
Why did the Prime Minister do nothing for those 11 weeks?
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- Jun/10/24 2:30:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on the contrary, our government is always working to protect democratic institutions and to strengthen the measures needed to ensure the integrity of our electoral process.
Law enforcement and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service are always on the job and they take their responsibilities seriously. I have full confidence in our national security agencies, and I have full confidence in the Hogue commission, which is looking at the exact scenario my colleague was talking about.
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