44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 10, 2024 11:00AM
- Jun/10/24 2:25:44 p.m.
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Once again, I am going to remind members to please not take the floor unless they are recognized to speak so that we can hear the questions and the answers.
The hon. Minister of Environment and Climate Change.
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- Jun/10/24 2:26:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we respect the work of the PBO, who provides independent analysis on the government. Conservatives, unfortunately, are misleading Canadians yet again. Our government has supported, and will continue to support, the Parliamentary Budget Officer to fulfill his role in his office. The report correctly confirmed that eight out of 10 Canadians get more money back in the rebate than they pay in a fuel charge. The Parliamentary Budget Officer has said that carbon pricing is the least disruptive measure to use to fight climate change.
Instead of misleading Canadians, Conservatives should take math classes over the summer and should come up with a real plan for the economy and for climate change.
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- Jun/10/24 2:26:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, today we are debating a Bloc Québécois motion seeking to expand the Hogue commission's terms of reference to allow it to also investigate members of the House of Commons working on behalf of foreign interests.
Why did we move this motion? Because the Liberals consistently lack leadership on the interference file. They are always playing catch-up and, frankly, they should be embarrassed that the Bloc Québécois has had to take this initiative again today. They are the government in power.
Why do they always have to get backed into a corner before taking action on foreign interference?
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- Jun/10/24 2:27:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have good news. The work I did with my colleague and the other House leaders last summer has resulted in the Hogue commission.
We believe that the terms of reference we negotiated with our friend from La Prairie allows the commission to do precisely the work that the Bloc Québécois motion calls for.
We will support the motion in tomorrow's vote. We will work with the Hogue commission precisely to determine the best way to proceed.
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- Jun/10/24 2:27:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, last week, during question period, when I asked what the government was going to do to ensure that no one in the House is working for a foreign power, the Deputy Prime Minister responded by talking about the interest rates.
The Bloc Québécois cares about this issue and is concerned about this threat to democracy and here she comes out with her useless spin. That speaks volumes about the Liberals' lack of seriousness. They are not taking this seriously. The threat is very serious.
Will the government offer its full collaboration to the Hogue commission once its terms of reference have been expanded?
Democracy depends on it.
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- Jun/10/24 2:28:39 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, absolutely, the answer is yes. As I said, senior officials at the Privy Council already initiated that discussion with the Hogue commission on the weekend.
We will always be there to ensure that the Hogue commission has everything it needs to shed light on this situation.
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- Jun/10/24 2:29:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has confirmation that MPs knowingly worked with foreign governments to undermine Canada. He has known for 11 months and has done nothing. All the while, Canadians have been harassed. Canadians have been threatened. A Canadian citizen was killed. Those were all linked to foreign governments.
Why has the Prime Minister failed to protect Canadians?
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- Jun/10/24 2:29:33 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, obviously, the most important responsibility of any government is to protect its citizens. Far from not taking this matter seriously, our government has been the only government in the history of Canada to set up a series of measures to detect, to disrupt and to prevent foreign interference.
We are very pleased that members of the House are working collaboratively to support government legislation before the House right now to give additional tools, to create additional criminal offences and to hold those to account who might seek to interfere in our democratic institutions. We will continue to always do this important work.
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- Jun/10/24 2:30:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has known for 11 weeks and has done nothing.
For 11 weeks, the Prime Minister has known the names of the MPs who may be working with the governments of foreign countries like India and China. For 11 weeks, he has known that some members are potentially helping a government that may have been responsible for the murder of a Canadian citizen.
Why did the Prime Minister do nothing for those 11 weeks?
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- Jun/10/24 2:30:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on the contrary, our government is always working to protect democratic institutions and to strengthen the measures needed to ensure the integrity of our electoral process.
Law enforcement and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service are always on the job and they take their responsibilities seriously. I have full confidence in our national security agencies, and I have full confidence in the Hogue commission, which is looking at the exact scenario my colleague was talking about.
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- Jun/10/24 2:31:29 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, after nine years of the Liberal-NDP government, here are the facts. One in five Canadians knows someone accessing a food bank, 25% of Canadians are going hungry and 44% feel financially worse off than just one year ago. Canadians are not doing well, despite the Prime Minister gaslighting them. It gets worse. There is now a PBO report that reveals the true cost of the carbon tax.
Why are they not allowing the PBO to release it? He has been gagged, and now we want to know why.
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- Jun/10/24 2:32:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the only people in this city who seem to be gagged are Conservative MPs. They are not allowed to express their true views when it comes to ending a woman's right to choose. None of them is allowed to express a view on tax fairness. Tomorrow, they are going to have to stop deflecting and evading, and are going to have to take a stand. We will see if they support fairness for every generation.
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- Jun/10/24 2:32:45 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am thankful for that perfect example of deflecting.
Again, this is not hearsay. This is a letter sent by the minister's office to the PBO. He is saying to the PBO that this is the real cost of the carbon tax. Conservatives have been saying for months to axe the tax because we know that it drives up the cost of literally everything. It is causing misery. The Liberals say that this is not true.
If it is not true, why the gag order? Why are they not allowing the PBO to release the carbon tax cover-up that shows the true cost of what it is costing Canadians?
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- Jun/10/24 2:33:24 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we believe in investing in affordability for Canadians with programs like a national school food program, dental care, and a national system of early learning and child care. We are going to pay for it in a responsible way with tax fairness.
I would like to invite that member to lift her own personal gag order and to come clean with Canadians on whether she supports tax fairness or whether she supports tax breaks for the wealthiest among us.
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- Jun/10/24 2:34:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians are not being fooled by the Prime Minister or the Deputy Prime Minister. They know that the carbon tax is making their lives more unaffordable.
Last week, the Parliamentary Budget Officer confirmed that a secret government report shows that the carbon tax costs Canadians more than they get back. The Prime Minister has forced the PBO to sign a gag order so that he cannot share that report. Canadians deserve the truth.
When will the government come clean with Canadians and release the report?
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- Jun/10/24 2:34:39 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the people who are not going to be able to fool Canadians for very much longer are the Conservatives. For days and days, for weeks and weeks, they have been dithering and deflecting and evading when it comes to our proposed measures on capital gains.
Tomorrow, they are going to have to take a stand. I invite the member opposite to lead the way by lifting her own personal gag order and saying what she believes.
Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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- Jun/10/24 2:35:15 p.m.
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I am going to ask members again, who have been really pretty good today, to please not take the floor until they are recognized by the Chair. Certainly, we all want to hear the question from the hon. member for Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek.
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- Jun/10/24 2:35:32 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the fact of the matter is that Canadians know that, after nine years, the Prime Minister is just not worth the cost or the corruption. He is desperate to cover up his own secret report, which shows that Canadians are worse off under his carbon tax regime. He knows it. We know it, and Canadians know it. When will the Prime Minister lift his gag order on the Parliamentary Budget Officer and release his report?
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- Jun/10/24 2:36:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on Friday, surprise of surprises, that very member for Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek informed, I am sure, for the first time, not only her own caucus colleagues, but also, indeed, the entire House of Commons, that she picks and chooses which parts of the Conservative platform she runs on. This whole party, we know, ran on the price on pollution in the last election, but this member stood up and told us that she really did not. Maybe she could tell us right now which parts of the Conservative platform she does not approve of today.
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- Jun/10/24 2:36:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians are not buying what the Prime Minister is selling because they know that the carbon tax is not worth the cost.
Canadians cannot put gas in their cars or food on their tables. They know the real pain of the carbon tax, and so does the Parliamentary Budget Officer, who confirmed that the Liberals have an economic analysis of the carbon tax that shows the real pain of that tax, but they refuse to release it. I wonder why. Maybe it is because it confirms what Conservatives and Canadians have been saying all along, which is that the carbon tax is not worth the cost.
Will the Prime Minister unmuzzle his budget watchdog, table the report and admit to Canadians that the carbon tax is all pain, no gain?
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