44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 10, 2024 11:00AM
- Jun/10/24 2:49:24 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if we were creating our tax system from scratch, what choices would we make as Canadians? Would we give the greatest tax advantages to those who make the most money, or would we insist on paying a fair share to keep Canada strong? The next generation of young Canadians across the country are leading the way in telling us that they want a fairer and forward-looking Canada.
Could the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance tell Canadians how this government is making this vision a reality?
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- Jun/10/24 2:50:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians believe in fairness. Many of the wealthiest Canadians make most of their money through investments and they can often wind up paying a lower overall tax rate than a nurse or a carpenter. That is not fair. That is why today our government is introducing changes that will result in a small number of well-off Canadians paying a little more tax. This will make our tax system fairer. That is fairness for all generations.
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- Jun/10/24 2:50:38 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister was warned multiple times about security threats from foreign interference. He was told measures to protect something as fundamental as our democracy were insufficient and he repeatedly failed to do anything about it.
We now know that members of the House knowingly assisted hostile foreign states against Canada's interests, and the government hides behind national security and cabinet confidence, while these members are still allowed to sit in caucus, sit in the House and serve their communities.
The Liberals have redacted and withheld documents from the Hogue commission. Will they hand over all the documents unredacted with names?
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- Jun/10/24 2:51:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier in question period, our government has always collaborated with the Hogue commission, and senior public servants who are responsible for decisions around redactions work collaboratively and constructively at all times.
As I said, obviously the government will ensure that the Hogue commission has access to all the documents necessary to do the important work that we have asked it to do. That has been our position since we created the Hogue commission and that will continue to be the work we will do.
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- Jun/10/24 2:51:57 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that is a really long way to say no. Canadians want to know who is working against—
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- Jun/10/24 2:52:04 p.m.
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I am going to stop the hon. member just so we do not injure either our interpreters or other members who are listening on the earphones. If there are any earphones near a microphone, I would ask members if they could put them in the proper place to make sure we do not get that Larsen effect.
The hon. member for Thornhill from the top, please.
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- Jun/10/24 2:52:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that is a very long way to say no. Canadians deserve to know who is working against Canada. Their responses have been a convoluted, finger-pointing exercise of secret committees or, worse, dismissive “Boo-hoo, get over it” statements from someone who once sat on the very committee that just—
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- Jun/10/24 2:52:43 p.m.
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I am going to stop the member once again. Members are not getting any translation services. There is now translation.
I am once again going to ask the hon. member to start from the top.
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- Jun/10/24 2:53:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians deserve to know who is working against Canada, and the best way—
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- Jun/10/24 2:53:20 p.m.
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We still seem to have translation difficulties.
The hon. member for Joliette.
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- Jun/10/24 2:53:33 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the interpreter is saying that there was some feedback. There is a problem. They are no longer able to interpret.
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- Jun/10/24 2:53:43 p.m.
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For members of Parliament who are asking questions, I would ask their neighbours to make sure their earphones are away from the microphone.
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- Jun/10/24 2:54:30 p.m.
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We are going to suspend the House for a couple of minutes as we explore this issue further.
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- Jun/10/24 3:39:58 p.m.
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Colleagues, I thank you for the patience you showed while we made changes to our process.
I would like to thank all members for their patience. Before we continue with question period, I would like to just take a moment to explain the delay.
First of all, I would like to reassure all members, as many members have come up to the Chair wanting to know if any interpreter had been injured.
I am pleased and relieved to report that no interpreters were injured as a result of this feedback.
We do have a protocol in place to ensure workplace safety for our interpreters.
The Larsen effect is a very serious effect for our interpreters. Their ears are their tools, and their ears help us, of course, do the work that we do here in the House.
I am going to ask members, out of an abundance of caution, that if their earphone is not on their ear, to please put them in the desk.
That way, we will ensure that interpreters are not injured in the House of Commons.
I would also like to thank our new team of interpreters. As per protocol, when a situation like this arises, a new team is put in place. Let us thank these interpreters for their work.
Also, one last thing, thank goodness we have the clerk to remind me. Members will find that the default setting on their earphones has now been set to low. So for those who are expecting interpretation, they will have to turn up the microphone.
We will continue where we left off. The hon. member for Thornhill, from the top.
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- Jun/10/24 3:42:31 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that was a very long way to say no, and Canadians deserve to know the truth.
The Liberal responses have been a convoluted, finger-pointing exercise of secret committees or, worse, a dismissive “Boo hoo, get over it” from someone who once sat on the very committee that released this damning report. If they will not tell the truth, I will ask the minister one more time.
Will the Liberals send every document, unredacted, with names, to Justice Hogue so she can release them?
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- Jun/10/24 3:43:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is a shame that the Conservatives want to heckle and the irony is in the fact that they want to misrepresent what happened at committee.
While Conservatives play partisan games, we are steadfast and focused on countering foreign interference and putting in place the measures that will strengthen our democratic institutions. It is ironic that the Conservatives bring up NSICOP, a committee they voted against and in fact also pulled members off at one point.
We are going to do everything to ensure that our democratic institutions are protected from foreign interference.
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- Jun/10/24 3:43:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the truth is that this Prime Minister has a long and troubled history when it comes to foreign interference, whether it involves political financing, his admiration for the basic dictatorship of the Communist regime in Beijing, or his talent for turning a blind eye to reports from the intelligence community.
The National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians courageously exposed the fact that the Prime Minister has known for a long time that members have been wittingly co-operating with hostile foreign states.
After nine years of hiding, will the Prime Minister finally be transparent and tell Canadians who they are?
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- Jun/10/24 3:44:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, my colleague opposite knows very well that it was this Prime Minister and this government that established, over the objection of the member opposite, the committee of parliamentarians, which oversees our intelligence agencies.
Had it not been for these initiatives and the very tough set of measures taken to counter foreign interference, we would not know what we know today, and the member, despite being opposed, would not have had the information that he wishes to have today.
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- Jun/10/24 3:45:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the government has had to be dragged kicking and screaming every step of the way to get answers on foreign interference. That is the truth. The Prime Minister knows that. He knows the names. He has consistently refused to act. No Liberal MP has suffered any consequences, even though he knows the names. Well, hiding behind classified information to avoid taking action to protect Canada's interests is no longer an excuse.
Since he refuses to be transparent with Canadians, will he accept the common‑sense Conservative proposal to share the names and facts about the MPs who are colluding with foreign states and being hostile toward Commissioner Hogue?
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- Jun/10/24 3:45:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we are having a hard time understanding why such a combative tone is being used on an issue that should not be partisan. The member knows full well, as the minister just reminded us, that the government is sworn to secrecy, that this information is one of Canada's most important secrets and that we could be criminally prosecuted if we disclosed such information. That is not something we are going to do.
I am having a hard time understanding why the member opposite is adopting such a partisan and combative tone. We will obviously rely on the laws that are in place.
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