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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 7, 2023 10:00AM
  • Dec/7/23 11:14:27 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I wanted to go back to the piece my hon. colleague mentioned about the carbon price tax not being a tax. The carbon pricing regime on fuel charge is not a tax in constitutional terms, according to the Supreme Court of Canada. It is revenue neutral due to the rebate program and climate action incentive funds. What this looks like in my home province is Eel Ground first nation, or Natoaganeg, a Mi'kmaq community, receiving funding to complete energy efficiency upgrades and retrofitting its band office. Also, five schools in New Brunswick have seen the Government of Canada investing carbon pricing proceeds into improve energy efficiency. This is what is at stake, so I would like to bring the facts back to the conversation. Could the hon. colleague comment on that?
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  • Dec/7/23 3:03:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, last night, under the cover of darkness, the NDP-Liberal government rammed through its anti-energy unjust transition and job-killing agenda at the natural resources committee. It broke every rule of parliamentary procedure and denied MPs the chance to be heard as it rammed through its anti-energy agenda. On the agenda of the committee, I ask the chair of the natural resources committee this: When will the committee consider this matter again, and how does the chair justify another gross betrayal of Canadian workers?
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  • Dec/7/23 3:43:09 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, there is a provincial Conservative government in Alberta that also put a moratorium on renewable energy projects. Can people imagine, in the year 2023, when the entire world is moving toward renewable energy, that a provincial government would put a moratorium on the innovation and the progress of where the world is moving to? That is not going to benefit Alberta in the long run. It might help a bit in the short run for a little political gain, but it is not going to help anybody in the long run. With respect to the member's question about meeting targets, I would much rather have very ambitious targets and not quite achieve them than have some lofty goals that are not realistic or that are overly easy to achieve. It is extremely important that when we do set these goals, we set them in a way that allows us to actually strive for something. I recognize that we are on target to meet our 2026 goals, and we are certainly on target to meet the 2030 goals, but I know that the member knows, because she cares about the environment so much, that this is not the kind of thing we accomplish overnight. We are talking about societal and cultural changes in the way that people behave in terms of everyday life. It is extremely difficult to encourage people to change behaviour when there is a political party in here, the Conservative Party of Canada, the opposition, that is actively doing the other thing and telling people, “No, no, what you are doing by burning fossil fuels is totally fine; keep doing this because, do not worry, we will get rid of this if we get elected.”
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  • Dec/7/23 3:45:04 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, as global market forces and inflation continue to hit Canadians, too many families are feeling the pressure of their monthly bills. Already, the Government of Canada has taken action on affordable child care, home retrofits, grocery prices and more. Now, we are taking an ambitious next step with a new energy affordability package. Can the member speak about energy affordability measures and what they include as we move forward with the package?
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  • Dec/7/23 3:45:37 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, we are aware that, certainly while we go through this transition, energy is going to be a struggle for Canadians. That is why we are trying to work with Canadians to give them the resources and the tools they need to be able to transition away, in particular, from the very expensive fossil-fuel-based forms of energy that create a lot of carbon emissions and, as a result, the tax. That is why we are encouraging people to move toward heat pumps, for example, by giving rebates and giving incentives to do that. We will continue to invest in programs like that.
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  • Dec/7/23 3:47:51 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I was a little concerned about the partisanship of my colleague's speech. The reason this is being brought forward is that Canadians right now are suffering. They are in a lot of pain. My colleague just admitted that Canadians will struggle when they have to use another form of energy. His colleague, my neighbour from Whitby, admitted last year that they knew that going to net zero is going to cause a lot of pain, and now we are going to get a quadrupling of the carbon tax. Could the member please let us know whether there are further policies that are in the pipe that will cause more pain and difficulty, such that Canadians will not be able to pay for a roof over their head and for food to feed their children?
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  • Dec/7/23 7:14:22 p.m.
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moved: That Vote 1b, in the amount of $100,219, under Canadian Energy Regulator — Program expenditures, grants and contributions, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024, be concurred in.
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