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House Hansard - 264

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 7, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 264 - Dec/8/23
The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:36:04 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:37:12 a.m.
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The next question is on Motion No. 32. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Hon. Anita Anand (President of the Treasury Board, Lib.)
  • Dec/8/23 12:37:12 a.m.
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moved: That Vote 5b, in the amount of $1,681,870, under Department of Citizenship and Immigration — Capital expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024, be concurred in.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/8/23 12:38:14 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we request a recorded vote, please.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:50:23 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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Mr. Daniel Blaikie
  • Dec/8/23 12:51:38 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I just have a quick question about what the rules are while a vote is happening. I noticed there were some members wandering around the chamber while the vote count was still ticking down. Other members came in after that period was over, and that is fine. There are some other members who chose to be mobile in other ways just now. I am wondering, while the vote is actually happening, if we are free to roam the chamber. If we are not, then I think somebody should tell the Conservative House leader.
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Hon. Kerry-Lynne Findlay
  • Dec/8/23 12:52:38 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. If people are voting in the chamber, they must stay in their seat until the vote is announced. If people are going out into the lobby or elsewhere to vote from their app, there is nothing against the rules in coming back in so they are ready for the next vote in the chamber. That is what is going on. Why was the member for Kingston and the Islands just outside the door taking pictures of us all? Where is he right now? I do not know.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/8/23 12:53:23 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. My understanding, and it is actually fairly clear, is that if someone is voting inside the chamber, they are supposed to be staying in their seat from the moment in which— An hon. member: Oh, oh!
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/8/23 12:53:30 a.m.
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Patience. Mr. Speaker, I know it is getting a little late for some, but members should have patience. If someone is voting inside the chamber, they take their seat and listen to the vote; they have to stay in their seat until after the vote total has been given. If someone is voting virtually, the expectation is that they will be outside the chamber. Yes, they can come in 30 seconds or a minute or so after and take their seat. They are not to wander around like the opposition House leader and other members were doing. It is expected that people would not abuse the opportunity to exercise their vote on the voting app.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:54:23 a.m.
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To the original point that was raised by the member for Elmwood—Transcona, after consultation with the table, I can say that, when one is in in the chamber, one is expected to stay in one's seat and not move around. If a member is voting electronically and coming into the chamber, it is fine to come in, take their seat and prepare to participate in person. However, if a member is voting in the chamber, for their vote to count, they must stay in their seat until the vote is announced. I also ask members, while they are voting here all night, that if they are coming into the chamber to correct or to confirm a vote, to follow the rules expected for men. They should wear ties in this place if they wish to address the House to clarify their vote. If they are participating via Zoom, they do not require a tie. The hon. member for Perth—Wellington is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. John Nater
  • Dec/8/23 12:55:52 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we have been told time and time again that it is the same to participate virtually and in person. Are you now saying that this is not the case? Are you contradicting yourself?
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:56:03 a.m.
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I would like to thank the hon. member for Perth—Wellington. I did make an error. Indeed, I was corrected by the table. When one participates by Zoom, one would have to vote with a tie. Of course, to err is human and to forgive, divine.
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Hon. Anita Anand (President of the Treasury Board, Lib.)
  • Dec/8/23 12:57:14 a.m.
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moved: That Vote 10b, in the amount of $475,168,265, under Department of Citizenship and Immigration — Grants and contributions, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024, be concurred in.
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Mr. John Nater
  • Dec/8/23 12:57:14 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we request a recorded division.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 12:57:14 a.m.
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The next question is on Motion No. 33. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 1:09:13 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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Hon. Anita Anand (President of the Treasury Board, Lib.)
  • Dec/8/23 1:10:10 a.m.
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moved: That Vote 1b, in the amount of $5,769,683,115, under Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs — Operating expenditures, in the Supplementary Estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2024, be concurred in.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 1:11:07 a.m.
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The next question is on Motion No. 34. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Hon. Kerry-Lynne Findlay
  • Dec/8/23 1:11:14 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Conservatives would love to have a recorded vote.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/8/23 1:22:31 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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